A little discussion on the vagus never from Uncle Clif's old defunct website from a couple years back that always stuck in my head, for some reason. Nothing earth shattering, but interesting nonetheless, and it struck me as something I needed to keep track of. Esp his prediction that vagus nerve issues would start picking up about now :) Keep your myelin happy! https://web.archive.org/web/20210115125416/http://halfpasthuman.com/verse/20210111brittle.html
I got a 404 for that link. If I go back to the domain, it's live but there is nothing much there - just links to other platforms. Telegram is threatening to throw him off because he has been inactive too long...
I've been using a device called an Ablespine (https://ablespine.com/en-au ) for the last 18 mths mainly to relieve neck and shoulder pain from sitting at a desk but as an added bonus it supposedly relaxes the Vagus Nerve - I wouldn't be without it. Fascinating subject - Thank you
Thank you, dear Christine! I agree that resetting my Vagus nerve was pivotal in my recovery from longhaul covid. My approach was twice daily, 5-minute resets where I would lie on my bed, face-down on my bed, head dangling a bit over the foot of the bed--and then rocking gently left and then right, like rocking a baby, moving with my breath. I also combed my head and neck gently with a wide-toothed comb, while telling myself that these five minutes were my time for healing; my time to relax. I could feel my autonomic nervous system reset while doing this, and I credit it with being the turning point where I began to start feeling like myself again.
Thanks Cynthia. I'm also convinced of the value, but I don't think I have grasped the full picture yet, or effected any kind of permanent "cure". My long haul covid is improving but very slowly.
I was very active for most of my life, very driven and very "alpha personality" type. Then my body gave up with covid. Since then my life is sluggish, so my body is sluggish, meaning my vagus nerve is sluggish. Commenting on Ways Through Wilderness's post below, I remembered what it felt like to cycle too fast down the bicycle path and the word exhilaration came to mind. I don't know how long since I experienced that feeling on any kind of regular basis.
Have you thought to look for a way of replacing your "routine" with something where the vagus nerve stimulation is a side effect of another kind of enjoyable activity, like maybe the exhilaration of galloping your horse down a beach - that kind of thing - which at 72 I am really not able to do any more?
Have you thought about how to stimulate the vagus nerve just because of something you do normally, rather than by performing some kind of deliberate exercise?
(As an aside, fenugreek, which I started taking to help overcome insulin resistance, has definitely helped me ground. It has not removed the fear or anxiety or grief that beset me from time to time, but I experience them "inside" the feeling that "I can cope", which has replaced the overwhelm of "I can't deal with this any more". It is not a tranquilizer as such but as a consequence of feeling so much stronger, I feel much calmer.)
Yes it is quite complex but also kinda simple: natural living normally made sure that this was no problem at all, so that is what one might do well keeping in mind...
I do wonder a lot these days about the radiation aspect, every single time I record a change for the worse or better that fits with 5G coverage maps. Not good at all!
Also by now I am convinced that I can feel this on my system and probably vagus nerve directly, there is one tower in particular behind the compound where I both feel a tingling sensation and also an arid, burnt smell that does not change with weather or seasons...
Actually part of the reason that I chose Ways Through Wilderness for branding online is that I see myself needing to get out into the remaining wilderness now and then, for this purpose but even for a longer period if things go really insane.
The strange or funny thing, though, is that whenever I am on a motorbike things are OK, and I feel better for a while. I do not think that is from the freedom, activity and mental stimulation only, actually I think that it both stimulates my systems physically with vibrations and the position, but also that all sorts of electrical fields and radio signals fly by, getting mixed up. It would not be too much of a stretch to think that the whole nervous system is less stressed by that than static or repeated pulses, signals or whatever is present when stationery...
I am pretty convinced, that, no matter what has made us sick, 5G is going to stop us getting well, unless we can address it.
Since leaving hospital it has been necessary for me to keep an eye on my blood sugar. There is a distinct pattern in that is goes up (apparently bad) over weekends when I am surrounded by tourists coming from Sydney and using their 5G phones (I live in a tourist town which, when there are no tourists here, is a retirement town, and so the "natives" are not high 5G users.). It is a clear pattern that does break sometimes, and I have not worked out what causes the peaks that are not weekend peaks, but most are weekend or holiday period.
I understand the need for wilderness, but am not able to indulge it these days. In the early days of 5G I found an area of forest locally that fell in the gaps between the signals, so I would go there for lunch each day. But the next time I checked, the 5G has shifted around the towers a bit so the entire area is covered. Now I cannot get away except by driving up and over a mountain range, which is too much for both my old car and my old bones.
Don't dismiss pendants. I have been using (started quite by accident) volcanic lava, and it really does save me quite a bit - perhaps not completely, but it is better than nothing. I am told shungite works also by my piece of shungite does not do as well as my piece of volcanic lava. Again, something that seems too simple to be possible.
My guess is that the benefit from the motor bike is mostly about the thrill. I got something similar just from riding a pedal bike, faster than sensible at my age, along a sea-edge bike path. Even that speed, with the cold breeze in my face, and sense of freedom, was exhilarating. When your life has slowed right down, the exhilaration might matter, and I have no idea how to get that on a daily basis! Perhaps just exhilaration is the key to vagus nerve stimulation? Worth investigating. Maybe that is why the cold water dips of Wim Hof work for those who are exhilarated rather than terrified.
The whole things with stones is so difficult. I read somewhere that we should be nervous of the stones that amplify like amethyst, rather than the black stones that absorb and/or repel. All we can do is wear them to find out. That's what I have done with black stones and I am reacting so badly now to my main shopping street, that all I have to do is go there to test out a new stone.
A little discussion on the vagus never from Uncle Clif's old defunct website from a couple years back that always stuck in my head, for some reason. Nothing earth shattering, but interesting nonetheless, and it struck me as something I needed to keep track of. Esp his prediction that vagus nerve issues would start picking up about now :) Keep your myelin happy! https://web.archive.org/web/20210115125416/http://halfpasthuman.com/verse/20210111brittle.html
I got a 404 for that link. If I go back to the domain, it's live but there is nothing much there - just links to other platforms. Telegram is threatening to throw him off because he has been inactive too long...
I just checked it again - I am able to view the post on the wayback machine. Not sure why it isn't working for you. Here's a PDF copy: https://www.mediafire.com/file/ph8xqd9g9xukgj4/_Brittle_ClifHigh_Jan2021_HPH.pdf/file
Very interesting. Thanks.
I've been using a device called an Ablespine (https://ablespine.com/en-au ) for the last 18 mths mainly to relieve neck and shoulder pain from sitting at a desk but as an added bonus it supposedly relaxes the Vagus Nerve - I wouldn't be without it. Fascinating subject - Thank you
Thank you. Never heard of that product before.
Thank you, dear Christine! I agree that resetting my Vagus nerve was pivotal in my recovery from longhaul covid. My approach was twice daily, 5-minute resets where I would lie on my bed, face-down on my bed, head dangling a bit over the foot of the bed--and then rocking gently left and then right, like rocking a baby, moving with my breath. I also combed my head and neck gently with a wide-toothed comb, while telling myself that these five minutes were my time for healing; my time to relax. I could feel my autonomic nervous system reset while doing this, and I credit it with being the turning point where I began to start feeling like myself again.
Thanks Cynthia. I'm also convinced of the value, but I don't think I have grasped the full picture yet, or effected any kind of permanent "cure". My long haul covid is improving but very slowly.
I was very active for most of my life, very driven and very "alpha personality" type. Then my body gave up with covid. Since then my life is sluggish, so my body is sluggish, meaning my vagus nerve is sluggish. Commenting on Ways Through Wilderness's post below, I remembered what it felt like to cycle too fast down the bicycle path and the word exhilaration came to mind. I don't know how long since I experienced that feeling on any kind of regular basis.
Have you thought to look for a way of replacing your "routine" with something where the vagus nerve stimulation is a side effect of another kind of enjoyable activity, like maybe the exhilaration of galloping your horse down a beach - that kind of thing - which at 72 I am really not able to do any more?
Have you thought about how to stimulate the vagus nerve just because of something you do normally, rather than by performing some kind of deliberate exercise?
(As an aside, fenugreek, which I started taking to help overcome insulin resistance, has definitely helped me ground. It has not removed the fear or anxiety or grief that beset me from time to time, but I experience them "inside" the feeling that "I can cope", which has replaced the overwhelm of "I can't deal with this any more". It is not a tranquilizer as such but as a consequence of feeling so much stronger, I feel much calmer.)
Great and very well written summary!
Yes it is quite complex but also kinda simple: natural living normally made sure that this was no problem at all, so that is what one might do well keeping in mind...
I do wonder a lot these days about the radiation aspect, every single time I record a change for the worse or better that fits with 5G coverage maps. Not good at all!
Also by now I am convinced that I can feel this on my system and probably vagus nerve directly, there is one tower in particular behind the compound where I both feel a tingling sensation and also an arid, burnt smell that does not change with weather or seasons...
Actually part of the reason that I chose Ways Through Wilderness for branding online is that I see myself needing to get out into the remaining wilderness now and then, for this purpose but even for a longer period if things go really insane.
The strange or funny thing, though, is that whenever I am on a motorbike things are OK, and I feel better for a while. I do not think that is from the freedom, activity and mental stimulation only, actually I think that it both stimulates my systems physically with vibrations and the position, but also that all sorts of electrical fields and radio signals fly by, getting mixed up. It would not be too much of a stretch to think that the whole nervous system is less stressed by that than static or repeated pulses, signals or whatever is present when stationery...
I am pretty convinced, that, no matter what has made us sick, 5G is going to stop us getting well, unless we can address it.
Since leaving hospital it has been necessary for me to keep an eye on my blood sugar. There is a distinct pattern in that is goes up (apparently bad) over weekends when I am surrounded by tourists coming from Sydney and using their 5G phones (I live in a tourist town which, when there are no tourists here, is a retirement town, and so the "natives" are not high 5G users.). It is a clear pattern that does break sometimes, and I have not worked out what causes the peaks that are not weekend peaks, but most are weekend or holiday period.
I understand the need for wilderness, but am not able to indulge it these days. In the early days of 5G I found an area of forest locally that fell in the gaps between the signals, so I would go there for lunch each day. But the next time I checked, the 5G has shifted around the towers a bit so the entire area is covered. Now I cannot get away except by driving up and over a mountain range, which is too much for both my old car and my old bones.
Don't dismiss pendants. I have been using (started quite by accident) volcanic lava, and it really does save me quite a bit - perhaps not completely, but it is better than nothing. I am told shungite works also by my piece of shungite does not do as well as my piece of volcanic lava. Again, something that seems too simple to be possible.
My guess is that the benefit from the motor bike is mostly about the thrill. I got something similar just from riding a pedal bike, faster than sensible at my age, along a sea-edge bike path. Even that speed, with the cold breeze in my face, and sense of freedom, was exhilarating. When your life has slowed right down, the exhilaration might matter, and I have no idea how to get that on a daily basis! Perhaps just exhilaration is the key to vagus nerve stimulation? Worth investigating. Maybe that is why the cold water dips of Wim Hof work for those who are exhilarated rather than terrified.
Thanks, i will follow up on sharon goldberg.
The whole things with stones is so difficult. I read somewhere that we should be nervous of the stones that amplify like amethyst, rather than the black stones that absorb and/or repel. All we can do is wear them to find out. That's what I have done with black stones and I am reacting so badly now to my main shopping street, that all I have to do is go there to test out a new stone.